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	<title>Comments on: Privacy Tip #3: Block Referer Headers in Firefox</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://cafe.elharo.com/privacy/privacy-tip-3-block-referer-headers-in-firefox/#comment-303464</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody know wether Firefox sends the referrer when you open a link in a new tab by right-clicking and selecting "open in new tab"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know wether Firefox sends the referrer when you open a link in a new tab by right-clicking and selecting &#8220;open in new tab&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason:
Yes, prefix the url with http://www.de-referer.com/?, thus the link would become:

http://www.de-referer.com/?http://de-referer.com/homophobia.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason:<br />
Yes, prefix the url with <a href="http://www.de-referer.com/?" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.de-referer.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.de-referer.com/?</a>, thus the link would become:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.de-referer.com/?http://de-referer.com/homophobia.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.de-referer.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.de-referer.com/?http://de-referer.com/homophobia.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a way to configure a link on my site to block the referer header - for instance, if I manage gay.com and have links to homophobia.com on my site - could I protect the privacy of my visitors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a way to configure a link on my site to block the referer header - for instance, if I manage gay.com and have links to homophobia.com on my site - could I protect the privacy of my visitors?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bloogie: In a real life sense, this would only make sense if Walmart had actually told you to go to Target. It does make sense in real life in some occasions, even if it is not really necessary (the same thing as here). 

For instance, I need to book a hotel. I go to Days Inn and they tell me that they are out of rooms, but Holiday Inn has a room for me. I go to Holiday Room and told them that Days Inn just sent me here and I would like a room. While not necessary per se, it just makes sense.

Your example would not be how a referer works. A referer only happens in server logs when you click a link to go from one website to another. If I type in http://yahoo.com/ and then http://google.com/, Google would not know I got to their website after visiting Yahoo!. But if I clicked a link at http://yahoo.com/ to go to http://google.com, Google would know I got to their site via Yahoo!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bloogie: In a real life sense, this would only make sense if Walmart had actually told you to go to Target. It does make sense in real life in some occasions, even if it is not really necessary (the same thing as here). </p>
<p>For instance, I need to book a hotel. I go to Days Inn and they tell me that they are out of rooms, but Holiday Inn has a room for me. I go to Holiday Room and told them that Days Inn just sent me here and I would like a room. While not necessary per se, it just makes sense.</p>
<p>Your example would not be how a referer works. A referer only happens in server logs when you click a link to go from one website to another. If I type in <a href="http://yahoo.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/yahoo.com');" rel="nofollow">http://yahoo.com/</a> and then <a href="http://google.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/google.com');" rel="nofollow">http://google.com/</a>, Google would not know I got to their website after visiting Yahoo!. But if I clicked a link at <a href="http://yahoo.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/yahoo.com');" rel="nofollow">http://yahoo.com/</a> to go to <a href="http://google.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/google.com');" rel="nofollow">http://google.com</a>, Google would know I got to their site via Yahoo!.</p>
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		<title>By: bloogie</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so next time I go shopping at Target, I'll go to the manager and tell him - hay I just came from walmart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so next time I go shopping at Target, I&#8217;ll go to the manager and tell him - hay I just came from walmart.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Trew&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Block Referrers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Trew&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Block Referrers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source: The Cafes. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
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		<dc:creator>HP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember also, that referer information is ONLY passed through clicking a link! That's right, you can copy the URL to the address bar and the next site will not know where you came from. Neither does it work if you type any address on the address bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember also, that referer information is ONLY passed through clicking a link! That&#8217;s right, you can copy the URL to the address bar and the next site will not know where you came from. Neither does it work if you type any address on the address bar.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's also such a thing as wanting to suppress information, even if you personally don't see the point.  I use logins with URL's, I don't really know if those're carried over, or the path to admin folders that may not be properly configured.

Perhaps someone visits a site they don't necessarily want everyone to know, is it relevant to every site I visit that I was just at rapesurvivors.net or how about gay.com?  Should that be set as a cookie or just logged along with my IP address on the server to build a browsing history retrievable in seconds from the logs?  Then if the site also has registration, you can just tie the registration info to the IP and that to the history.  

I believe it's required for cafepress sites among others, so you can force this.  Just because YOU wouldn't use it for social manipulation or harassment, that doesn't mean you represent everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also such a thing as wanting to suppress information, even if you personally don&#8217;t see the point.  I use logins with URL&#8217;s, I don&#8217;t really know if those&#8217;re carried over, or the path to admin folders that may not be properly configured.</p>
<p>Perhaps someone visits a site they don&#8217;t necessarily want everyone to know, is it relevant to every site I visit that I was just at rapesurvivors.net or how about gay.com?  Should that be set as a cookie or just logged along with my IP address on the server to build a browsing history retrievable in seconds from the logs?  Then if the site also has registration, you can just tie the registration info to the IP and that to the history.  </p>
<p>I believe it&#8217;s required for cafepress sites among others, so you can force this.  Just because YOU wouldn&#8217;t use it for social manipulation or harassment, that doesn&#8217;t mean you represent everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Spam Stop (not my real name)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spam Stop (not my real name)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many sites use this value to check what page you were on so they can direct you to the next page - for example at the checkout. Worst case scenario - your card is charged and the software crashes expecting HTTP_REFERRER to be set so you never get your order.

All HTTP_REFERRER does is transmit the url of the page you came from. I hardly call that tracking you 'across the Web' as the author claims. The MOST it will reveal about your browsing activities to the website owner is the url of the last page you visited before you entered their site (i.e. the url of the page with the link to their site on it) or the URL of pages deep link to their content.

There is such a thing as too much paranoia.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many sites use this value to check what page you were on so they can direct you to the next page - for example at the checkout. Worst case scenario - your card is charged and the software crashes expecting HTTP_REFERRER to be set so you never get your order.</p>
<p>All HTTP_REFERRER does is transmit the url of the page you came from. I hardly call that tracking you &#8216;across the Web&#8217; as the author claims. The MOST it will reveal about your browsing activities to the website owner is the url of the last page you visited before you entered their site (i.e. the url of the page with the link to their site on it) or the URL of pages deep link to their content.</p>
<p>There is such a thing as too much paranoia&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: è èè‰¾è”» &#187; HTTP RefereräºŒä¸‰äº‹</title>
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		<dc:creator>è èè‰¾è”» &#187; HTTP RefereräºŒä¸‰äº‹</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] network.http.sendRefererHeader (default=2) è®¾ç½®Refererçš„å‘é€æ–¹å¼ï¼Œ0ä¸ºå®Œå…¨ä¸å‘é€ï¼Œ1ä¸ºåªåœ¨ç‚¹å‡»é“¾æŽ¥æ—¶å‘é€ï¼Œåœ¨è®¿é—®é¡µé¢ä¸­çš„å›¾åƒä»€ä¹ˆçš„æ—¶å€™ä¸å‘é€ï¼Œ2ä¸ºå§‹ç»ˆå‘é€ã€‚å‚è§Privacy Tip #3: Block Referer Headers in Firefox [...]</description>
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