Comments on: SourceForge for the 21st Century http://cafe.elharo.com/programming/sourceforge-for-the-21st-century/ Longer than a blog; shorter than a book Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:45:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Ali http://cafe.elharo.com/programming/sourceforge-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-465364 Ali Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:23:23 +0000 http://cafe.elharo.com/?p=551#comment-465364 Elliot Rusty Harold, You say that "SourceForge et al. are real force for good in the community." From a couple of months ago sourceforge is blocking access to downloads from its entire domain to countries that are embargoed by America. The countries include Iran, Syria, North Korea, Iraq (after seven years of occupation by America and the supposed transformation of that country into a modern democracy, whatever that is), and Sudan, and ... As such I am not able to download your XOM (which I used to do) and everything else GPL or LGPL or otherwise, as long as it resides on sourceforge. There is nothing in the GPL and its derivatives that mentions American embargoes or the assortment of American designated "Hitlers" of one sort or another, still souceforge has gone ahead and blocked access. That does not make sourceforge a force for good. It makes it a force for sending the GPL'ed programs that are made and donated with the best of intentions down into the black hole of some misbegotten American policy, thereby becoming a tool of those who have brought death to over a million Iraqis and destruction and misery to untold millions in Iraq and Afghanistan and all over the world. Certainly, sourceforge did not wished it to work like this. However, what is more certain is that those, including you, who have donated their code to the public at large, did not wish their code to be treated like this. Or did you? :) Elliot Rusty Harold,

You say that “SourceForge et al. are real force for good in the community.”

From a couple of months ago sourceforge is blocking access to downloads from its entire domain to countries that are embargoed by America. The countries include Iran, Syria, North Korea, Iraq (after seven years of occupation by America and the supposed transformation of that country into a modern democracy, whatever that is), and Sudan, and …

As such I am not able to download your XOM (which I used to do) and everything else GPL or LGPL or otherwise, as long as it resides on sourceforge. There is nothing in the GPL and its derivatives that mentions American embargoes or the assortment of American designated “Hitlers” of one sort or another, still souceforge has gone ahead and blocked access. That does not make sourceforge a force for good. It makes it a force for sending the GPL’ed programs that are made and donated with the best of intentions down into the black hole of some misbegotten American policy, thereby becoming a tool of those who have brought death to over a million Iraqis and destruction and misery to untold millions in Iraq and Afghanistan and all over the world.

Certainly, sourceforge did not wished it to work like this. However, what is more certain is that those, including you, who have donated their code to the public at large, did not wish their code to be treated like this.

Or did you? :)

]]> By: mike http://cafe.elharo.com/programming/sourceforge-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-454057 mike Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:31 +0000 http://cafe.elharo.com/?p=551#comment-454057 Hi, Great article Elliotte. Now you are talking about software and how to make good software :-) I have my project on sourceforge and I also wanted a quick release process when I have changed the code. Do you mind posting your ant script? //mike Hi,

Great article Elliotte. Now you are talking about software and how to make good software :-)
I have my project on sourceforge and I also wanted a quick release process when I have changed the code. Do you mind posting your ant script?

//mike

]]> By: Joerg http://cafe.elharo.com/programming/sourceforge-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-452960 Joerg Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:26:20 +0000 http://cafe.elharo.com/?p=551#comment-452960 FYI - http://www.projectlocker.com has a free plan (5 users and 500MB) with source repo, wiki ... there is also continuous build/test system available and auto deployments but I guess the latter features have monthly costs, i.e. not included with the free plan ;-( FYI – http://www.projectlocker.com has a free plan (5 users and 500MB) with source repo, wiki … there is also continuous build/test system available and auto deployments but I guess the latter features have monthly costs, i.e. not included with the free plan ;-(

]]> By: Assaf http://cafe.elharo.com/programming/sourceforge-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-452835 Assaf Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:20:28 +0000 http://cafe.elharo.com/?p=551#comment-452835 Check the ecosystem around Git. I use Github which offers Web hooks for integrating with 3rd party services. I have one that kicks off continuous integration (RunCodeRun) and another that kicks off code complexity analysis/coverage report (Devver) each time I push a change. Third one notifies rdoc.info, which pulls the changes to update online documentation. On big projects, I recommend each developer working on their own fork. To get (fully tested) changes into the master repository, developer makes a pull request which shows up in the fork queue. There's an awesome UI for conducting code review on these changes before accepting them. Services like Heroku allow you to deploy your application by simply pushing it into a designated Git repository. I use Capistrano (self-hosted) to similar effect. Check the ecosystem around Git.

I use Github which offers Web hooks for integrating with 3rd party services. I have one that kicks off continuous integration (RunCodeRun) and another that kicks off code complexity analysis/coverage report (Devver) each time I push a change. Third one notifies rdoc.info, which pulls the changes to update online documentation.

On big projects, I recommend each developer working on their own fork. To get (fully tested) changes into the master repository, developer makes a pull request which shows up in the fork queue. There’s an awesome UI for conducting code review on these changes before accepting them.

Services like Heroku allow you to deploy your application by simply pushing it into a designated Git repository. I use Capistrano (self-hosted) to similar effect.

]]> By: James Abley http://cafe.elharo.com/programming/sourceforge-for-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-452813 James Abley Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:51:07 +0000 http://cafe.elharo.com/?p=551#comment-452813 Excellent post. I think Hadoop has elements of this [1] - a patch is submitted to JIRA and Hudson tries it out, reporting on the quality of the patch. [1] http://1060.org/blogxter/entry?publicid=702D3B2007CC75DD4C3D4E73F4DD5390&token= Excellent post. I think Hadoop has elements of this [1] – a patch is submitted to JIRA and Hudson tries it out, reporting on the quality of the patch.

[1] http://1060.org/blogxter/entry?publicid=702D3B2007CC75DD4C3D4E73F4DD5390&token=

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