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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://cafe.elharo.com/travel/javaone-hotels/comment-page-1/#comment-102004</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok - i have two more for you - under $100:
http://www.themosser.com/
http://www.elementshotel.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok &#8211; i have two more for you &#8211; under $100:<br />
<a href="http://www.themosser.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.themosser.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.elementshotel.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.elementshotel.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://cafe.elharo.com/travel/javaone-hotels/comment-page-1/#comment-78987</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you get into the park - and want to have a bird moment - swing by stow lake - if the blue herons are still nesting they are magnificent:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/03/27/SP265522.DTL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you get into the park &#8211; and want to have a bird moment &#8211; swing by stow lake &#8211; if the blue herons are still nesting they are magnificent:<br />
<a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/03/27/SP265522.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/03/27/SP265522.DTL</a></p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://cafe.elharo.com/travel/javaone-hotels/comment-page-1/#comment-78855</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about this one, less than $100:
http://www.sanremohotel.com/
it is out of the downtown - by the wharf - you would have to ride the cable car over the hill or take muni around the embarcadero to the downtown - or walk - around the embardero would take about 20 minutes to get downtown and another 20 to get to the moscone - and in the morning the bay views from the waterfront would be stunning. it has shared bathroom for some, if not all the units, all the couples i have suggested it to always have returned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about this one, less than $100:<br />
<a href="http://www.sanremohotel.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sanremohotel.com/</a><br />
it is out of the downtown &#8211; by the wharf &#8211; you would have to ride the cable car over the hill or take muni around the embarcadero to the downtown &#8211; or walk &#8211; around the embardero would take about 20 minutes to get downtown and another 20 to get to the moscone &#8211; and in the morning the bay views from the waterfront would be stunning. it has shared bathroom for some, if not all the units, all the couples i have suggested it to always have returned.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://cafe.elharo.com/travel/javaone-hotels/comment-page-1/#comment-78853</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about this one, less than $100:
http://www.sidestep.com/hotels-rates-h08201-grant_plaza_hotel_san_francisco_ca
there are 2 hotels for this rate on grant within a block of each other that cater to &quot;tour groups&quot;, the grant plaza is the newer of the two. don&#039;t be fooled by the cable car with tires - they are not on the cable car line. i&#039;ve had buddies stay there and say it was ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about this one, less than $100:<br />
<a href="http://www.sidestep.com/hotels-rates-h08201-grant_plaza_hotel_san_francisco_ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.sidestep.com/hotels-rates-h08201-grant_plaza_hotel_san_francisco_ca</a><br />
there are 2 hotels for this rate on grant within a block of each other that cater to &#8220;tour groups&#8221;, the grant plaza is the newer of the two. don&#8217;t be fooled by the cable car with tires &#8211; they are not on the cable car line. i&#8217;ve had buddies stay there and say it was ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Augusto</title>
		<link>http://cafe.elharo.com/travel/javaone-hotels/comment-page-1/#comment-78775</link>
		<dc:creator>Augusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our corporate rates were cheaper than the stuff offered by the conf. booking system.

I&#039;m in San Fran now, in the Palace hotel. Got a good discount, but there are better prices out there. Was thinking of booking the Sir Francis Drake, but I should have done that already, I&#039;m afraid all of these are going to be booked soon. 3 years ago I was at the Chancellor hotel, which was adequate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our corporate rates were cheaper than the stuff offered by the conf. booking system.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in San Fran now, in the Palace hotel. Got a good discount, but there are better prices out there. Was thinking of booking the Sir Francis Drake, but I should have done that already, I&#8217;m afraid all of these are going to be booked soon. 3 years ago I was at the Chancellor hotel, which was adequate.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliotte Rusty Harold</title>
		<link>http://cafe.elharo.com/travel/javaone-hotels/comment-page-1/#comment-78614</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliotte Rusty Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried that, and perhaps I was late but everything I found through there was more expensive than the one I ended up booking or further away or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried that, and perhaps I was late but everything I found through there was more expensive than the one I ended up booking or further away or both.</p>
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		<title>By: Avery Regier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avery Regier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiosity, why not book your hotel through the conference site?  That is probably why you can&#039;t find cheep hotels close by.  They may have rooms blocked out for JavaOne.  

I&#039;ve done three hotels, the Hotel Union Square (very affordable, but you&#039;ve got to deal with poor rooms and I&#039;ve always looked out into a hole between buildings), which for some reason isn&#039;t available via the conference site, the Crowne Plaza Union Square (which is nice, medium expense), and in my first year, the Grand Hyatt San Francisco (not exactly affordable, but at least they have wi-fi).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, why not book your hotel through the conference site?  That is probably why you can&#8217;t find cheep hotels close by.  They may have rooms blocked out for JavaOne.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done three hotels, the Hotel Union Square (very affordable, but you&#8217;ve got to deal with poor rooms and I&#8217;ve always looked out into a hole between buildings), which for some reason isn&#8217;t available via the conference site, the Crowne Plaza Union Square (which is nice, medium expense), and in my first year, the Grand Hyatt San Francisco (not exactly affordable, but at least they have wi-fi).</p>
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		<title>By: Elliotte Rusty Harold</title>
		<link>http://cafe.elharo.com/travel/javaone-hotels/comment-page-1/#comment-78527</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliotte Rusty Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually thought about that one. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60713-d81246-Reviews-Ramada_Limited_Downtown-San_Francisco_California.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TripAdvisor scared me away&lt;/a&gt; though. They rank it #225 out of 233 San Francisco hotels. I&#039;m a little curious who&#039;s number 233. In fact, it looks like all the hotels rated below them are placed there only because they haven&#039;t received any user reviews yet, not because they&#039;re actually bad. Thus according to TripAdvisor, the Ramada Inn Ltd Downtown is the single worst hotel in San Francisco. That&#039;s pretty damn impressive. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually thought about that one. <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60713-d81246-Reviews-Ramada_Limited_Downtown-San_Francisco_California.html" rel="nofollow">TripAdvisor scared me away</a> though. They rank it #225 out of 233 San Francisco hotels. I&#8217;m a little curious who&#8217;s number 233. In fact, it looks like all the hotels rated below them are placed there only because they haven&#8217;t received any user reviews yet, not because they&#8217;re actually bad. Thus according to TripAdvisor, the Ramada Inn Ltd Downtown is the single worst hotel in San Francisco. That&#8217;s pretty damn impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: leeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>leeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last WWDC I stayed at the Ramada Limited Downtown, on 7th street, which is a short walk from the Moscone and very close to Market St in the SOMA area.  I don&#039;t have a receipt to hand but it was around $120/night I think.  Not much in the way of mod cons, but there was a bed and a shower which was all I needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last WWDC I stayed at the Ramada Limited Downtown, on 7th street, which is a short walk from the Moscone and very close to Market St in the SOMA area.  I don&#8217;t have a receipt to hand but it was around $120/night I think.  Not much in the way of mod cons, but there was a bed and a shower which was all I needed.</p>
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